John Adams 1826
We are talking trillions here and President Obama’s answer is a Fiscal Cliff Offer that Includes Unlimited Executive Power to Raise Debt Ceiling.
He also had in his opening offer in 'fiscal cliff' talks to include $255 billion in stimulus spending – tax cuts, incentives, and more. It could be a bargaining ploy or a bid to offset rising taxes on the rich. The stimulus didn’t work on the first go round so Obama wants to try it again.
Statutory debt limit 16,394,000
Total public debt outstanding Nov. 29
16,306,713
Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, President Barack
Obama's point man on the fiscal cliff negotiations, presented Republican leaders
a proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff on Thursday, which gives Obama
unprecedented powers to raise the debt ceiling whenever he wants.
The White House proposal includes $1.6 trillion in tax increases, a one-year deferral
of sequestration, and $400 billion in savings from Medicare and other
programs.
In addition, the White House's initial offer also gives Obama the authority to raise the debt ceiling
essentially to infinity without congressional approval and a “multi-year”
stimulus package that would be “at least” $50 billion for fiscal year 2013.
Republican aides have noted that the White House’s proposal already
breaks Obama’s campaign promise of taking a “balanced” approach to the fiscal
cliff negotiations. His plan contains four times as much increased tax
collection ($1.6 trillion) as spending cuts ($400 billion). Further, the White
House proposal includes a new round of multi-year stimulus programs that would
be “at least” $50 billion for fiscal year 2013, which, over time, would more
than offset the $400 billion in claimed initial savings.
The Democrat-controlled Senate could only find 51 votes to “pass a
bill with $800 billion in new tax revenue a few months ago,” casting doubt on
whether Obama's current proposal would pass.
House Speaker John Boehner, after seeing the White
House's plan, said, "no substantive progress has been made in the talks between
the White House and the House over the last two weeks.

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