LIE #1: OBAMA'S FAILED STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT
THE CLAIM: Obama Tried To Deny That He
Proposed A Status Of Forces Agreement That Would Have Left Thousands Of Troops
In Iraq. (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton,
FL, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: "Obama Sought To Negotiate A
Status Of Forces Agreement That Would Have Allowed United States Troops To Stay
In Iraq After 2011." "Mr. Obama sought to negotiate a Status of Forces
Agreement that would have allowed United States troops to stay in Iraq after
2011. Initially, the Obama administration was prepared to keep up to 10,000
troops in Iraq. Later, the Obama administration lowered the figure to about
5,000 troops - some 3,500 of which would be continuously based in the country
while the remainder would periodically be rotated through. The role of the
American forces would be to train Iraqi troops, patrol Iraq's skies and help
Iraqi commandos fight Al Qaeda." (Michael Gordon and Scott Shane, "Fact Check: A
Status Of Forces Agreement?" The
New York Times, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: "Obama Wanted To Leave Several Thousand Troops
In Iraq." (Josh Smith, Sophie Quinton, and Olga Belogolova, "Debate
Fact Check: The Third Presidential Debate Between Barack Obama And Mitt Romney,"
National
Journal, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: "Romney's Right-Obama Did Try
To Get A Status Of Forces Agreement, But Could Not Get An Agreement With The
Government Of Iraq." " (Glenn
Kessler, "Fact Check: Debate Over Iraq Withdrawal," The
Washington Post, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: "Actually, The Obama
Administration Tried For Many Months To Win Iraqi Agreement To Keeping Several
Thousand American Troops There Beyond 2011 To Continue Training And Advising The
Iraqi Armed Forces." (Calvin Woodward, "FACT CHECK: Missteps In
Final Presidential Debate," The
Associated Press, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: NBC's Andrea Mitchell: "So Governor
Romney is right, that the administration has tried and failed to get an
agreement called Status of Forces Agreement that, in fact, would have allowed a
small force of troops to remain for several years in Iraq." (NBC,
10/22/12)
THE FACTS: Fox News' Chris Wallace: "I
Think You Have To Give The Points To Mitt Romney On That…
Romney Was Right, Obama Was Wrong. Obama Wanted And Failed To Get A
Status Of Forces Agreement." (Fox News,
10/22/12)
THE FACTS: NBC's Richard Haass: "
Even The Administration I Think Has Kept Open The
Possibility Of A So Called Residual Force There." (NBC's " 2012
Presidential Debate," 10/22/12)
LIE #2: OBAMA CLAIMED HE DID NOT PROPOSE THE
SEQUESTER
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed That The
Sequester Was Not Something That He Proposed. OBAMA: "First of all, the
sequester is not something I proposed, it's something that Congress proposed. It
will not happen." (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn
University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: "In Fact, The Idea May Have
Come In Part From Obama's Current Chief Of Staff, Jack Lew." (Josh Gerstein and Darren Samuelsohn, "Fact-Checking The Third Presidential
Debate," Politico,
10/22/12)
LIE #3: OBAMA MISCHARACTERIZED HIS POSITION ON
CHINA
THE CLAIM: "President Barack Obama
Called China An 'Adversary' Of The United States For The First Time During
Tonight's Debate, Changing His Own Administration's Messaging On The U.S.-China
Relationship And Contradicting His Own Secretary Of State." (Josh Rogin,
"Obama Contradicts Clinton, Calls China An 'Adversary,'" Foreign
Policy's The Cable, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: "Secretary Of State
Hillary Clinton Appears To Agree With Romney, Not Her Boss. She's Said On
Several Occasions That China Is Not An Adversary And Doesn't Have To Become
One." (Josh Rogin, "Obama Contradicts
Clinton, Calls China An 'Adversary,'" Foreign
Policy's The Cable, 10/22/12)
LIE #4: OBAMA MISREPRESENTED ROMNEY'S RECORD ON THE AUTO
BAILOUT
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed That Romney Would Not "Provide
Government Assistance To The U.S. Auto Industry." (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton,
FL, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS:
"Romney Is Correct In That He Called For A
'Managed Bankruptcy.'" "Although 'bankrupt' often conjures up images of
liquidation, Romney is correct in that he called for a 'managed bankruptcy.'
This is a process in which the company uses the bankruptcy code to discharge its
debts, but emerges from the process a leaner, less leveraged company.
Ultimately, along with getting nearly $80 billion in loans and other assistance
from the Bush and Obama administrations, GM and Chrysler did go through a
managed bankruptcy." (Glenn Kessler, "Fact Check: The Auto Industry Bailout," The
Washington Post, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: Time's
Michael Scherer: "Obama is wrong. Romney
supported guarantees in bankruptcy. 'The federal government should provide
guarantees for post-bankruptcy financing'" (Michael Scherer, Twitter
Feed, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: Romney Argued
"The Federal Government Should Provide Guarantees For Post-Bankruptcy Financing
And Assure Car Buyers That Their Warranties Are Not At Risk. So At Least On That
Point, Again, Romney Seems To Have Had The Record Straight." (Fox News, 10/22/12)
The Facts: Original Romney Opinion Piece "Let Detroit Go Bankrupt" A managed bankruptcy may be the only path to the fundamental restructuring the industry needs.(New York Times Nov. 2008) Added by be
THE FACTS: FactCheck.org: "Obama says Romney
wouldn't have provide any gov't assistance for automakers. But Romney did
propose loan guarantees." (FactCheck.org, Twitter
Feed, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: CNBC's Scott Cohn: "Mitt Romney
Did Not Write In That 2008 Op-Ed That He Wanted To Liquidate The Auto Industry.
He Did Say He Wanted It Restructured Through Bankruptcy." (CNBC, 10/22/12)
LIE #5: OBAMA CLAIMED IT COST LESS TO LIBERATE LIBYA THAN
AMOUNT SPENT FOR TWO WEEKS IN IRAQ
THE CLAIM: Obama: It Cost Less To Liberate
Libya Than What The U.S. Spent In Two Weeks In Iraq. OBAMA: (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton,
FL, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: CNN's John Berman: "Our Verdict Here Is False On
The Math." BERMAN: "So, what are the facts here? The total cost for the
first five years of the war in Iraq was 646 Billion. Which breaks down to about
700 Million for two weeks which is less than the 896 million the U.S. spent on
military intervention in Libya. Our verdict here is false on the math. Obama was
right that Libya is cheap compared to Iraq overall, but he exaggerated by about
200 million dollars when he compared it to two weeks in Iraq." (CNN, 10/22/12)
LIE #6: OBAMA CLAIMED ROMNEY'S JOBS PLAN WOULD CREAT JOBS
OVERSEAS
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed Gov. Romney's Plan Will Create
800,000 Jobs Overseas. OBAMA: "If we take your advice with respect to
how we change our tax codes so that companies that are in profits overseas don't
pay U.S. taxes compared to companies here that are paying taxes, now, that's
estimated to create 800,000 jobs. The problem is they won't be here; they'll be
in places like China." (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn
University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: FactCheck.org: "Obama
says Romney's plan would create 800 k jobs overseas. But study says foreign jobs
could grow without costing US jobs…" (FactCheck.org, Twitter
Feed, 10/22/12)
LIE #7: OBAMA CLAIMED ROMNEY SAID RUSSIA WAS AMERICA'S
GREATEST GEOPOLITICAL THREAT
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed Gov. Romney Has Said That Russia
Was The U.S.' Greatest Geopolitical Threat. (President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn
University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: "Romney Has Never Called Russia The No. 1
'Enemy' Or 'Threat' To The United States, Despite Obama's Claims On Multiple
Occasions, Including Monday's Debate." (Josh Gerstein and Darren
Samuelsohn, "Fact-Checking The Third Presidential Debate," Politico,
10/22/12)
LIE #8: OBAMA LIED ABOUT ROMNEY'S EDUATION RECORD
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed That The Massachusetts Scholarship
Program Happened Before Romney Became Governor Of Massachusetts. OBAMA:
"That happened - that happened before you came into office." (President Barack
Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: Obama Was "Incorrect." "Also, Obama was
incorrect when he said the Adams scholarships predated Romney." (Josh Smith,
Sophie Quinton, and Olga Belogolova, "Debate Fact Check: The Third Presidential
Debate Between Barack Obama And Mitt Romney," National
Journal, 10/22/12)
LIE #9: OBAMA WAS WRONG ABOUT EGYPTIANS' OPINIONS ABOUT
AMERICA
THE CLAIM: Obama Claimed Opinions About The U.S. Have
Improved In Egypt Under His Presidency. OBAMA: "In Egypt we stood on
the side of democracy. In Libya we stood on the side of the people. And as a
consequence there is no doubt that attitudes about Americans have changed."
(President Barack Obama, 2012 Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton,
FL, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: FactCheck.org: "Obama
said attitudes of US have changed, mentioning Egypt. In Egypt, only 19% view
U.S. favorably, down 3 pts since 08." (FactCheck.org, Twitter
Feed, 10/22/12)
LIE #10: OBAMA CLAIMED THE MILITARY DOESN'T USE
BAYONETS
THE CLAIM: Obama: "Governor, We Also Have
Fewer Horses And Bayonets Because The Nature Of Our Military Has
Changed." OBAMA: "I think Governor Romney maybe hasn't spent enough
time looking at how our military works. You mentioned the Navy, for example, and
that we have fewer ships than we did in 1916 well, Governor, we also have fewer
horses and bayonets because the nature of our military has changed. We have
these things called aircraft carriers where planes land on them. We have the
ships that go underwater, nuclear submarines." (President Barack Obama, 2012
Presidential Debate, Lynn University, Boca Raton, FL, 10/22/12)
THE FACTS: Fox News' Chris Wallace: " The
Marines Still Use Bayonets, So It May Not Be Clear Who Doesn't Understand What
The Military Currently Uses." FOX NEWS' CHRIS WALLACE: "Well, as it
turns out, in the middle of the debate, after he heard this, a marine tweeted
Fox News and said: the Marines still use bayonets, so it may not be clear who
doesn't understand what the Military currently uses." (Fox News, 10/22/12)
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Laying Down My Pen
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"THE CLAIM: Obama: It Cost Less To Liberate Libya Than What The U.S. Spent In Two Weeks In Iraq."
ReplyDeleteNice copy and paste job.
You only need to use your brain for a minute or two, or spend a few seconds with a calculator, to see that CNN's accusation is false, and that by CNN's $646 Billion cost estimate, Obama was unquestionably correct. CNN is the liar here.
At a glance it is obvious that $646 billion over 5 years amounts to more than $120 billion per year. From this it is obvious that with 52 weeks in a year, this amounts to more than $2 billion per week, or more than $4 billion per two weeks (if you perform the calculations, you'll find it's actually $4.9 billion per two weeks). Which is over 5 times the cost of the war in Libya.
All that CNN did to arrive at $700 million was take $646,000,000,000 divided by the number of days in 5 years (365 x 5 = 1825), then multiply by two, to arrive at $707,945,205, which is the number that they displayed on TV. This is the cost of two DAYS in the Iraq War, not two weeks.
If you still need help with the math, it is all laid out in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETsNhBwIMYM
Since you failed to verify CNN's false claim, I have no confidence in the other claims made here.